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MARK FORCE

A brief guide to the loss of liberty and rights since 1997

Protest and assembly

– Protests are banned within one kilometre of Parliament Square without police permission (penalty: 51 weeks in jail and/or a £2,500 fine).

– Groups may be dispersed under antisocial-behaviour laws.

– Groups may be dispersed within designated areas under the terror laws.

– The new offence under SOCPA of trespass within a designated site (no justification for designation is required).

Communications

– Under the Regulation of Investigative Powers Act, government agencies may intercept email, internet connections and standard mail without seeking a court’s permission (the latest figure is 500,000 secret interceptions a year).

– Since summer 2007, the government and some 700 agencies have had access to all landline and mobile-phone records. There was no primary legislation and no debate in parliament.

Databases

– Without primary legislation, police introduced a national network of all ANPR cameras. The travel data may be stored for two years.

– The National Identity Register will store details of every verification made by an ID-card holder and give access to government agencies without the knowledge or consent of the private citizen.

– ID-card enrolment requires every citizen to offer up 49 pieces of personal information to the national database, with heavy and repeated fines for non-compliance.

– All children's details are to be stored on a central database, with access granted to a wide range of public bodies.

– The Children’s Common Assessment Framework database stores all details of children with problems, indefinitely.

– The Home Office has announced that it wishes to take 19 pieces of information, including mobile-phone and credit-card numbers, from everyone travelling abroad.

Free Expression

– Public-order laws have been used to curtail free expression. A man wearing the slogan “Bollocks to Blair” on his T-shirt was told to remove it by police.

– The Race and Religious Hatred Act (2006) bans incitement of hatred on religious grounds.

– Justice Minister Jack Straw proposes new laws which would ban the incitement of hatred towards the disabled and on the grounds of a person’s sexual orientation

– Terror laws are used to ban freedom of expression in designated areas. Walter Wolfgang was removed from the Labour party conference for heckling Jack Straw. People have been searched simply for wearing slogans on their T-shirts or for carrying banners. A man was detained while collecting signatures against the ID card

– The Protection from Harassment Act (1997) bans the repetition of an act. People prosecuted for repeated protest by email.

– Terror laws ban the glorification of terrorism, which has resulted in the prosecution of a young woman for writing poetry.

The Courts

– ASBO legislation introduces hearsay evidence, which may result in a person being sent to jail.

– The Criminal Justice Act (2003) allows the prosecution to make an application to be heard without a jury where there is a danger of jury tampering. This will include fraud trials.

– The admissibility of evidence concerning a person’s bad character, previous convictions and acquittals.

– The Proceeds of Crime Act (2002) gives the state powers to confiscate assets in circumstances where it does not have enough evidence for prosecution.

–Special Immigration Appeals Court hearings are held in secret. Those terror suspects whose cases come before the court are not allowed to know the evidence against them or to be represented by a lawyer of their own choice.

– The Courts and Tribunals Enforcement Act abandons the tradition of an Englishman’s home being his castle, which since 1604 has made breaking into a home by bailiffs illegal.

Terror Laws

– Terror laws have been used to stop and search ordinary citizens. The current rate is 50,000 per annum.

– A maximum of 28 days without charge is allowed under terror legislation. The government has announced plans to increase this to 42 days.

– Control orders, effectively indefinite house arrest, were introduced after the Belmarsh decision.

Hi People,

Many a night at the bugz studio,Orin and i love to put the world to rights over a few merry berry roll ups. Over the last few years Orin has opened my eyes to alot of information that i never knew about, which has got me thinking in different way than i used to. You may think that this stuff is just conspiracies but if you look up any of the info above you will find that they are part of UK law.
Dont be blinded by fear of terror
light will overcome the darkness
one love blud
mr m force

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Damn I really didnt know this has already been documented. I will def have a look at that book, thanks T! The trouble with the "general" population is they do need to believe in something and are to ready to give up their cival liberty's for that added sense of security. They dont care that the people that lied to them about going to war or umpteen other things can use these new laws against them or their loved ones!

They always worry when it's to late and bloodshed is the only way out. It's always been that way since the beginning of time unfortunately! The world has way too many sheep and not enough free thinkers and as always its the artists that have greater understanding, well greater than the general populace. lol why do you think Hitler hated them as well!?

Oh well lets see what happens now, the world is gonna be a messy place when oil runs out and "normal" people become the cattle that you already see when ur in China!

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Yes it is scary but very true, there is dfntly a global enpowerment that is takin' place to crush human rights on every level & to control many aspect of our lives, extremely hard to fight back as they shut/shot u down straight away if u inply 2 go against their agenda, not being paranoid here but if u look into our History u'll find examples everyday, even centres of spiritual gardens like Tibet r being shut down, smthin is really really wrong here... Time 2 go further in our expression to awaken a few in each community & f!ck those who thinks its all conspiracy... Shhhh is much heavier then that, seek & seek further than whats in front of ur eyes ! 1

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Hi there

it's good to see people responding to this post, at first i thought no one was really bothered or cared or they thought it's another rant by some mad person (the normal reaction of most folk).
On this subject i feel quite helpless and lost on what i can do about what is going on right in front of our eyes (well the people that are not blinded by fear of terror anyway). So the first thing i thought i could do was share information i have with people in my network and hope that they would pass this info to their friends. There is some theory that if you forward this post to 3 friends and everybody does the same, within 20 forwards it reaches millions so maybe we can try this out and see what happens.

As for all this information that we are getting now thru the internet, what is the purpose of this? Do you think the powers that be would let us be getting it, if not for a reason. Don't believe that the internet is an open place of free speech, it is controlled as much as the news or papers. Just by me writing this post or you responding we probably have been added to some database, but i don't really care, so if you hear i've been sectioned and am claiming i'm the son of god you know why lol

keep your head up and eyes open wide
peace and mud
mark force

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While it's entirely possible that being on this thread has added us all to "some list" (assuming we weren't on it already) I also think that there's only so much that "they" know about--there's only 24 hours in the day and peeps gotta sleep some time. I think if were were on a POLITICAL site (or one out of some weirdo place like San Francisco) we'd be much more likely to make said list...

btw, if you're reading from SF (or just happen to like the place) I was born there and you KNOW i'm right about that place being a "govt. keyword."

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We all agree that we're not paranoid on this thread but the rights we sign away every site we sign up to and can't be bothered to read the terms and conditions to are owned by some very interesting people. Case in point, Facebook:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/14/facebook

I'll say it again, there's no need for governmental powers to care about what a few free thinkers are saying as the people don't want the info...

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Well said every1 but even more so Cyndi, people really just dont want to know! Normal people dont have questions, they just want a holiday a year and pay off their mortgage. They want to go out once a week with their mates, watch the footy and live in oblivion. Tbh I wish I could be like them and think like them because life with your eyes closed is a nice kind of oblivion.

Unfortunately i'm not and I guess quite a few people here aren't, so I guess living with frustration is the only way to go about things. Time to take it out on my CDJs and Reason, the truth will set you free! I guess music is a big part of our truth else we wouldn't be here lol!

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never did join facebook. the letters CIA bother me a little too much. on the other hand myspace is owned by the people responsible for FOX NEWS (usa entertainment passing for news--owned by ozzie rupert murdoch, who just bought wall street journal, also.)

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On the ASBO legislation bringing in hearsay that's a gross miscomprehension. Hearsay evidence became admissible through s114 the Criminal Justice Act 2003. It isn't just a broadly sweeping revocation of the principle that hearsay is inadmissible, but provides 4 distinct exceptions where inadmissibility of hearsay will not apply.

The most important, and frankly the most positive, aspect of the provision means that those in fear of testifying against somebody, or those who cannot be found may still have their evidence submitted to the court. This actually has the affect of non tampering or intimidation of witnessess.

Furthermore if hearsay wasn't admissible, somebody reading out a confession statement wouldn't be admissible and all witnesses no matter how scared they were would be forced to come to trial, which are both laughable.

"ASBO legislation introduces hearsay evidence, which may result in a person being sent to jail" is a total paraphrasing of what the hearsay rule is actually about. It's not a general admissibility of hearsay, in fact the prohibition on hearsay still exists, it just codifies 4 exceptions to the rule, 2 of which have actually always existed in the common law anyway.

It has been interpreted fairly narrowly in fact, and hearsay evidence has been admissible only in fairly extreme circumstances, and in fact has been welcomed by commentators and all in practice.

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So your point is?

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My point is that where the list states that ASBO legislation has brought in hearsay being acceptable in criminal cases, it is wholly inaccurate. Nothing has changed except the CJA 2003 has codified already existing principles. There isn't an issue about breaching civil liberties in that example and doesn't really have a place on the list.

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Thanks, I was left shivering in the outer hebrides after reading your dialogue-lol!

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lol! o.k. back to da music my tune for this thread is:- Lanu - Disinformation :D

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